More from the UO Club Sports executive committee meeting tonight
Because tomorrow’s edition of the Daily Emerald is very crunched on space, I wanted to use this space to expand on the story I filed for the print edition. Here is the original story in today’s issue for background.
Here is the quick version: The men’s club ultimate frisbee team’s season is still canceled. They will appeal, but aren’t sure who they can appeal to yet. They only have until Friday to do so, however, because the regional tournament begins Saturday. If they fail to play in a game at that tournament, they are disqualified and can’t go to nationals.
Here is the rest of the story….
The Club Sports executive committee met Monday night in the Ben Linder Room in the EMU in front of a group of about 110 people. I’d say it was 80-20 in favor of the men’s ultimate frisbee team, ranked third in the nation, judging by the speakers and the amount of clapping in support of Tina Snodgrass’s motion to overturn the ruling.
Executive committee member Jeff Gibb gave the floor at the beginning of the meeting to club co-coordinator Aki Ohdera, who deferred to Dusty Becker, a co-captain of the ‘A’ team with Steve Kenton.
Becker started by saying how he agreed the group had done something wrong, but spent the rest of the his time arguing that the punishment did not fit the action and that the action (playing a nude point at a tournament at Oregon State on April 11), in context with the culture and “spirit of the game” of ultimate frisbee, was not uncommon in the sport.
“We understand why what we did was wrong,” Becker said. “We understand the position we’ve put you guys in.”
“Honestly and truthfully, we didn’t think we did anything wrong,” Becker continued, saying that all the team’s infractions in the past two years — four speeding tickets, the naked point at OSU and two alcohol-related offenses — were “not malicious.”
“We need to recognize the difference between the ultimate culture and the club sports culture,” Becker said.
The rest of the alotted 20 minutes given to the team’s officials for its defense went to co-captain Kenton and team chaperone Kathleen Dugan, who traveled with the team to Oregon State. A chaperone was added to team travels after the team’s role in the Campebell Club party in November that put the team on probation.
Dugan said the nudity “never crossed” her mind as being inappropriate. She also made the point that three members of the Oregon men’s basketball team who were convicted on misdemeanor charges of shooting at waterfowl in early April at Alton Baker Park received community services for their punishment.
Kenton read excerpts from letters of support from around the nation.
Personally, he said, “We agree that something wrong happened. We’d like to work with you guys from now until the end of the season or whatever to reflect the degree of the mistake we made.”
A coach of the EGO ‘A’ team spoke — I didn’t catch his name. He vouched that since he took over after the Campbell Club, the club has been only hardworking at practices and worked with a sense of purpose for the national championship.
Then the floor was opened up to speakers, who got two minutes to speak. Ten spoke in favor of the club, and five were in favor of the committee’s decision.
ASUO President Sam Dotters-Katz spoke in support of the team. He played his first term of his freshman year on the team, and said they were all good people who should have their season reinstated, calling the ruling ‘a bit much.’
“I urge you to reconsider,” he said.
From there it ran the gamut from team members and a another chaperone reading letters of support or voicing their own opinions to other club coordinators siding with the committee.
In closing arguments, Kenton brought up alternative punishments for the team that would keep them playing.
- They were: Whoever was directly involved would sit out the first game of the regional tournament and do 10 hours of community service;
- Invited Sandy Vaughn, director of Club Sports, and the committee to watch the team play at OSU to see their work ethic;
- and all players on the A and B team hold and teach community clinics for ultimate frisbee.
When they finished and some questions were raised by the committee. Then Gibb asked if there were any motions to overturn. No one said anything after 10 seconds, so he said the decision was upheld. Then Tina Snodgrass, a member of the women’s ultimate team, spoke up about her concerns and rejected claims the committee wouldn’t be taken seriously if it allowed the team’s season to continue. She was interested in making the team do all the punishments they proposed while allowing them to play.
After some people spoke up in the room for and against, which wasn’t allowed according to the rules the committee put down at the beginning, they asked again for a motion, and Snodgrass officially made a motion, sending applause throughout the room.
The motion was not seconded however, and died on the table. There was silence after Gibb announced the decision stood, until some team members showed their disgust by booing, but really, there wasn’t much reaction. People filed out of the room and let the emotion show outside, where some were crying, and everyone on the team began to gather in groups to talk about what was next.
Kenton said, “We have to respect the decision,” but when asked if they were going to appeal through the week, he said, “We’re going to sure as hell try.”
Co-coordinator Cody Bjorklund said,” We think we can appeal and we’re going to do everything we can from there. Ultimately, we just want to play.”
A majority of the points made by the team officials and members of the audience in favor of the team to keep playing seemed to be working on the point that nudity was not a problem in the game, while the exec committee seemed to be taking the stance of looking at the large scale of all their past transgressions. This was what ultimately led to their decision, saying they had given them enough chances to right themselves in the past, only to have something else go wrong.
This was clearly a decision based on an accumulation of past troubles from the executive’s point of view. The team wanted one more chance after believing the nudity wasn’t a big deal in the culture of ultimate. We’ll see where it goes from here.
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I think a lot of what took place is misunderstood by the general public because they are not wrapped up in the sport of ultimate and are not currently in college.
Drinking in college happens. If there is a time and place to drink it is in college. Maybe you remember what that period of your life was like. People threw parties at their houses and all their friends came, whether they were of age or not. Lets not pretend that the only people drinking at a university are those 21 and older. The UofO frisbee team just got caught. Which is a risk they took while throwing the party, but there were probably 50 other parties taking place that same night in Eugene, all of which provided alcohol to kids between 18 and 20 years of age, and many of which were hosted by college affiliated fraternities and sororities.
The speeding tickets are a problem, but should not be held against the team. If Ego’s travel plans are anything like other club sports, they are probably leaving Eugene at 5pm on Friday to drive their own personal vehicles to Stanford, Vancouver BC, Chico, Humboldt, Vegas, San Diego… in order to get up at 6:30-7am the next morning to get ready to play and intense sport for 10hrs. And since when does a few students in a personal vehicle represent their school?
The other offense this year is that regarding the nudity. There could be worse things that they did then try and have fun while playing the sport they love. The game wasn’t an important one, they had won their pool and had to finish the day by playing their B-team. Nudity doesn’t hurt anyone, and if you are so offended by it, you could always turn away or leave, or close the blinds to your dorm window. Didn’t Eugene recently rule that nudity was okay as long as it represented a cause?
By the way the article was written up, it sounds as if Dusty didn’t help his cause. “Speeding, drinking, nudity – they’re not bad things,…They’re things a big portion of the community doesn’t think are wrong.” Although not necessarily correct he isn’t necessarily wrong. Most people speed by 5-10mph while driving and a large portion of those of age or in college do drink. These are not abnormalities in our society or among college athletes of any sport. Nudity is not uncommon in our society either, it is just such a faux-pas that most people choose to ignore it. Maybe it isn’t right, but it is mostly harmless.
I don’t think Ego is without blame in this, and I definitely think they should have played it a little cooler, especially since the team was on probation already, but I don’t believe that they deserved to have their season ended right before the biggest tournament of the year for them. Imagine if USC wasn’t allowed to play in the Rose Bowl because of a few traffic infractions leading up to the game or UNC wasn’t allowed to play in the NCAA’s because a few of them were caught drinking in public. That is essentially what this breaks down too.
This is absurd on so many levels. For one, this is a club sport that, if they are like schools elsewhere, get very little money from the student gov’t and probably have to fight for field space. The university definitely benefits from their name recognition at zero cost. Also, for the student gov’t committee to be so zero tolerant for basically misdemeanor infractions that were spread out over a few years is sad. And to impose this kind of collective punishment is draconian. A proper administrative body would have singled out the ‘wrongdoers’, but hey. They’re just hippie frisbee kids right? Even if they are arguably the best athletes, steroids or not, in the school…